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	<title>Comments on: Filtering &#8211; How much, and what?</title>
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	<description>Lets break down the "Old Thinking" barriers.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly a hot topic. I find it usually comes down to bad communication and a lack of knowledge about and even trust in our learners.

There are some comments here from my posting asking similar questions (but not as good) - http://www.flairandsquare.com/archives/121

Hope they help.
Regards,
Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly a hot topic. I find it usually comes down to bad communication and a lack of knowledge about and even trust in our learners.</p>
<p>There are some comments here from my posting asking similar questions (but not as good) &#8211; <a href="http://www.flairandsquare.com/archives/121" rel="nofollow">http://www.flairandsquare.com/archives/121</a></p>
<p>Hope they help.<br />
Regards,<br />
Alex</p>
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		<title>By: lgwilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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TFT this is the blog I mentioned to you yesterday. Have a look at the entry entitled &quot;Supplementing my kids&#039; education&quot;</description>
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<p>TFT this is the blog I mentioned to you yesterday. Have a look at the entry entitled &#8220;Supplementing my kids&#8217; education&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tech4teach</title>
		<link>http://tech4teaching.edublogs.org/2007/09/23/filtering-how-much-and-what/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>tech4teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to scribble some ideas over the next 2 weeks (yeah Holidays!!) If we are going to invite PTF representation we may need to show our reasoning to get their support.

Now, how do I mindmap again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to scribble some ideas over the next 2 weeks (yeah Holidays!!) If we are going to invite PTF representation we may need to show our reasoning to get their support.</p>
<p>Now, how do I mindmap again?</p>
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		<title>By: lgwilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of having the students involved, but I see it working better at a different level.
I would prefer it TFT if you and I were to co-chair a student sub-committee. This would give the students their own forum to begin with &amp; as time goes on or when they have an item they want to get teacher opinion on then they come to the ICT Committee with it. At present I think they need a voice &amp; to not be overwhelmed by the larger committee.
Now...how about inviting the P&amp;F to nominate one of their number to join the ICT Committee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of having the students involved, but I see it working better at a different level.<br />
I would prefer it TFT if you and I were to co-chair a student sub-committee. This would give the students their own forum to begin with &amp; as time goes on or when they have an item they want to get teacher opinion on then they come to the ICT Committee with it. At present I think they need a voice &amp; to not be overwhelmed by the larger committee.<br />
Now&#8230;how about inviting the P&amp;F to nominate one of their number to join the ICT Committee?</p>
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		<title>By: tech4teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>tech4teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem will be enabling change. The legalese that has been applied to the duty of care issue is just ridiculous. Who will be game to allow change?

The idea of Student representation is a good one. I&#039;ll run this past LG and see what she thinks.

We have a Commerce/Legal Studies Teacher that is finding it really difficult to teach as just about anything that she tries to get to is blocked. We have requested that she submit this issue officially to the Committee, which is sad that it has to be done that way, and we&#039;ll wait and see where we can push that. If we combine that with submissions from Students who have had difficulty in studying and research may help as well. We&#039;ll make sure they&#039;re Yr12&#039;s trying to prepare for their HSC of course.

It&#039;s a shame that we have to justify it to this degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem will be enabling change. The legalese that has been applied to the duty of care issue is just ridiculous. Who will be game to allow change?</p>
<p>The idea of Student representation is a good one. I&#8217;ll run this past LG and see what she thinks.</p>
<p>We have a Commerce/Legal Studies Teacher that is finding it really difficult to teach as just about anything that she tries to get to is blocked. We have requested that she submit this issue officially to the Committee, which is sad that it has to be done that way, and we&#8217;ll wait and see where we can push that. If we combine that with submissions from Students who have had difficulty in studying and research may help as well. We&#8217;ll make sure they&#8217;re Yr12&#8217;s trying to prepare for their HSC of course.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we have to justify it to this degree.</p>
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		<title>By: ghugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have it exactly right ..... we have gone overboard with this duty of care stuff, and it is restrictive and draconian. Schools are about educating and helping children make appropriate decisions. Trouble is we make all the important decisions for them. What kind of education is that? There are increasing calls for student voices to be heard and I suggest a way forward is to have a student representative on your committee and give them a vote. Listen to what they have to say and ask for their advice. Let them help with the monitoring. See what happens .... I will look for research but I don&#039;t hold much store in it. Sounds like a great action research project for you-know-who...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have it exactly right &#8230;.. we have gone overboard with this duty of care stuff, and it is restrictive and draconian. Schools are about educating and helping children make appropriate decisions. Trouble is we make all the important decisions for them. What kind of education is that? There are increasing calls for student voices to be heard and I suggest a way forward is to have a student representative on your committee and give them a vote. Listen to what they have to say and ask for their advice. Let them help with the monitoring. See what happens &#8230;. I will look for research but I don&#8217;t hold much store in it. Sounds like a great action research project for you-know-who&#8230;</p>
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